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NYT RIP-- Judy has killed the "Newspaper of Record"

by Paolo

Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:03:04 PM PDT

Jeez I thought I wouldn't add to the noise here but this makes my blood boil...

The Second Libby Meeting

I interviewed Mr. Libby for a second time on July 8, two days after Mr. Wilson published his essay attacking the administration on the Op-Ed Page of The Times.


Updated with link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/16/national/16miller.html
cont'd
Update II
Handy-dandy NYT timeline here: http://www.nytimes.com/ref/politics/2005_LEAKTIMELINE_GRAPHIC.html
click on Judy to see her key role in destroying the world as we knew it...

Our meeting, which lasted about two hours, took place over breakfast at the St. Regis Hotel in Washington. I told Mr. Fitzgerald that I almost certainly began this interview by asking about Mr. Wilson's essay, which appeared to have agitated Mr. Libby. As I recall, Mr. Libby asserted that the essay was inaccurate.

Mr. Fitzgerald asked about a notation I made on the first page of my notes about this July 8 meeting, "Former Hill staffer."

My recollection, I told him, was that Mr. Libby wanted to modify our prior understanding that I would attribute information from him to a "senior administration official." When the subject turned to Mr. Wilson, Mr. Libby requested that he be identified only as a "former Hill staffer." I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew that Mr. Libby had once worked on Capitol Hill.

Did Mr. Libby explain this request? Mr. Fitzgerald asked. No, I don't recall, I replied. But I said I assumed Mr. Libby did not want the White House to be seen as attacking Mr. Wilson. Emph added

"Recollection"... "don't recall"... "assumed"... And she's a f**ing reporter for the f**ing New York Times?

The hell with all of those warmongers and neo-cons.

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  •  Is there a link to this? n/t (none / 0)

    War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

    by Margot on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:07:27 PM PDT

  •  As I recall, (4.00 / 2)

    I interviewed someone who I believe to be Mr. Libby for what may have been a second time, possibly on July 8, which if my recollection serves was two days after a man who may or may not have been Mr. Wilson published what have heard characterized as his--or her--essay which can be read as attacking the administration on what I recall is the Op-Ed Page of, I think, The Times.

    John McCain is anti-child.

    by GussieFN on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:09:38 PM PDT

  •  She forgot a lot of things (none / 0)

    People she spoke with

    What she spoke to them about

    What they spoke to her about

    On a matter of national interest and high security

    Wonder how she does with the things that don't matter?

    by bjedward on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:10:00 PM PDT

  •  Wow, what a great gal that Judy is! (4.00 / 2)

    So accomodating! Do you think Libby considered requesting attribution as a "former third grader?" Just to hide the ball a bit?

    by Kagro X on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:13:32 PM PDT

    •  My thought exactly (none / 0)

      To so grossly mischaracterize himself indicated he didn't want his comments to be traced.  I think this request by Libby is itself is damning because he knew his comments were foul play.

      We're in a culture that increasingly holds that science is just another belief. - Alan Alda

      by sawgrass727 on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:37:35 PM PDT

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  •  I just feel overwhelming sadness.... (4.00 / 6)

    I grew up in NY.  There was only one paper in my house - The New York Times, which my parents read from cover to cover.

    How sad is it that it has all come to this.  Lying propaganda shills for a corrupt government.  Promises of anonymity to administration officials who are supposed to be defending the administration.  Why would they need anonymity to do that (answer: They are lying!!!)

    The New York Times is dead.  The free press is dead.  How sad.

    Any party that would lie to start a war would also steal an election.

    by landrew on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:20:02 PM PDT

  •  Good thing I wasn't there (none / 0)

    I wouldn't be able to stop throwing up.

    Internet, n., A series of tubes invented by Al Gore; not a truck. "I mailed an Internet to my friend."

    by Viktor on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:20:10 PM PDT

  •  Yep. (none / 0)

    WASHINGTON - Notes by the New York Times' Judith Miller that were turned over in a criminal investigation contain the name of a covert CIA officer, but the reporter has told prosecutors she cannot recall who disclosed the name,....

    -6.88/-5.64 * We won! We won!.... Now back on your heads.

    by John West on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:32:04 PM PDT

    •  Fits right up there with what the meaning of is IS (none / 1)

      a Reporter who cannot recall the name of her interviewee?  

      Judy is not a reporter. She's an asset - the lead cheer leader operative in the march to war.

      Let's stop feeding greed. In fact, propose we make it a commandment: The greedy shall not be fed.

      by idredit on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 03:23:44 PM PDT

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  •  Editor and Publisher's story (none / 0)

    can be found here.  They aren't overly negative, but they don't think the article was all that it was built up to be.

    I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15)

    by guyermo on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:36:14 PM PDT

  •  Reports of death are greatly exaggerated (none / 0)

    This isn't going to change a thing.  The NYT has no credibility with conservatives already, and most of the rest of us aren't going to suddenly switch to ... what? the Wall Street Journal?  the Washington Post?  the LA Times?  just because of the Miller affair.  

    It is incredibly embarrassing for the NYT, and it does reduce their prestige, but my bet is that this is a minor blip in the record.

    by i dont get it on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:47:09 PM PDT

  •  Umm (4.00 / 4)

    I'm an attorney and I have spent many hours of my life doing essentially what Fitzgerald was doing with Miller, going over people's notes of conversations that are several years old.  No one remembers everything.  

    What I thought was interesting in Miller's piece was:1) that she did not recall the origin of the notations "Valerie Flame" or "Victoria Wilson;" 2) that she affirmed that Libby told her that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA; 3) that there was some suggestion that Libby may have thought she had security clearance; 4) that Libby may have discussed classified information with her and/or shown her classified documents and read from a document he had in his pocket; and, 5) very interestingly, that Libby wrote her a letter stating that everyone else had testified that he had not discussed Wilson's wife's employment and that she thought this was some type of signal to her that they had not discussed that issue either (obstruction question).

    "What is hateful to thee, thou shalt not do unto thy neighbor. This is the whole of the Law, the rest is only commentary" Hillel

    by modthinglet on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 03:40:17 PM PDT

  •  Miller went to jail for 80 some days (none / 0)

    to protect the source of the Plame name. Then she got out and told the GJ she didn't recall the source, and she ain't goin' back to jail?

    Somebody's going, and they're higher up the food chain.

    -6.88/-5.64 * We won! We won!.... Now back on your heads.

    by John West on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 03:44:21 PM PDT

  •  et tu NYT (none / 1)

    Judy didnt do this all by her lonesome self.

    Daniel Okrent helped, along with Brooks, Friedman, Safire when they distorted and lied about subjects such as foreign policy.

    Judt does win first prize for brazenly spouting off WH fantasies as facts on so many occassions she can no longer be trusted to simply report on simple questions such as "What Time is it?"  

    It's time to clean house and stop presenting op-ed swill as facts, and to hold op-ed columnists to ethical and factual standards.

    "You know what the real fight is? The real fight is the definition of what is reality." Bernie Sanders

    by shpilk on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:06:50 PM PDT

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